The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. However, factory literature of 1936-39 shows this model in .45 cal. I recently purchased a used 12 ga. semi-auto "Luigi Francia (not Franchi) Brescia" per engraving on receiver and barrel. This command uses the Windows Management Instrumentation Command . Any help with this would be very much appreciated. 322 7.65 mm. It seemed like the correct forum for the post as there were other posts related to the weapon already present there. liiliiiin:l'iilir :f II?! After the war confiscated arms were separated as to good or bad and the bad guns were destroyed. If you would like to contribute your model number, serial number and date code to this data base let me know. IX-A.-This is the .45 ACP caliber, to which a grip safety was added immediately following World War II. The one directly below is the third series which is wider in the grip area using a modified frame and slide but the same magazine. Now under the left grip I found an F followed the numbers 234 which also happens to be stamped on the barrel trigger and back strap. During the period of 1992 to 2005they struggled with a lack of sales causing them to have to takethe company public in 2002 to keep the doors open. So the stamp is as follows, the letter 'D' then an. III, but this has not been confirmed. ACP only. Llama 380 Serial Number HistoryLlama Serial Number YearLlama 45 Serial Number LookupLlama Pistol Ser. Enter the serial number (no spaces) of your firearm and click on 'Search' to identify your model. Mod. 323 7.65 mm. If you advertise "looking for Blastomatic Model 11" with the specific serial number, you might find the current owner. As a result of this only Astra continued to make guns after that territory was taken over by the Nationalists. Piotti. II.-This 9 mm. When first issued no model number was assigned but the factory catalog designation was No. so on. I have records of this gun being made as early as 1932 and as late as 1944. They were used in trials but never passed the requirements and only Star and Astra were purchased. Llama XVIII - .25 cal called the Executive. I found this pic in my files and I have no idea where it came from. 'l''',!' 2514, l'l'l'l'J'H I' I' IM ' I' t I > I' I III HJ I IH|' > M' HJ I I' I' IM f I 'J M M *!I' * I n, 'Til :l'llll!llM)|l|'|i||? The frame and slide of the M82 are made from steel, so the gun is relatively heavy, but strong. 201524, Buluilliulillii;!' Stoger as a firearms importer went out of buisness long ago, The name is used today by a publishing company. according to the serial number. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. Likewise, the year 1981 was represented with the code A2. Galesi Mod. By your date code I bet you have the III-A which is not marked anywhere on the slide. This gun has no proof marks whatsoever. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers this appears to be the export version of Mod. On the right side just below the serial number is G.C in a circle. I'm trying to identify it. iT : ! Mod. 7733, !b.wJi' ''' ' '.I'111'1'!'1! Also, based on the fact there are no . It dates from about 1935 and is believed to have replaced the first two models in distribution and to have been dropped from production in 1954. 331 7.65 mm. Advertisement. Parabellum caliber was produced. Most likely there are many out there but this type of gun was never put in German records or marked with Nazi marks. This is the admission proof mark that appears on Spanish handguns submitted to the official government proof house in Eibar Spain after July 9, 1931. Browning filed a law suit against Beristain for patent infringement but lost the suit in 1925 . This book contains well over 50 pages of detailed information and illustrations all about the art of knife throwing. K . t fg^Ap, [Tyc I: . This addition seems to have been the first application of a grip safety to a Llama pistol and was introduced prior to World War II. This is all based on my research online but I'm certainly not 100%. 33206, m'l'ly ' 1 111 ' |' 111' i ' 111111 |'|i|'i'jili|i|i|i|i|i|ij'i' I' 111.1.1 in | Ijlj'll 1' 1' 'j'' m i' |' i' i' m |' i' i' i' 11111 m ij i 11111 11111111 ij i111ii11111 1I1111111111111, ii i iTl i < i J. t mii i 11 n in it !i i m It i kIii nlirti ti i iTliitilit Mlntt liiniitulimli into'! codes--they are the same. All of these stampings on this pistol have been double struck. Purdey. L. Selbstladcr' Wood grip pieces on pistols made for military use, Fr. LLama 38 special Description: Nice Llama 38 special, very similar to the Smith and Wesson 29-2 44 magnum revolver's, this gun has a little holster ware but retains about 90% of it's dark polished bluing, has a 4' vented barrel with good rifling, smooth trigger pull, locks up nice, nice grips. Http analyzer for mac os recovery tool. iiull.l'%'lr. To get into BIOS menu, press F2 button repeatedly after powering up until BIOS menu shows up. If you still have trouble finding results for Llama Serial Number after simplifying your search term then we strongly suggest using the alternative sites (linked above). Little Tom Wiener Waffenfabrik Vienna, Austria No. Mod. You can narrow your search by manufacturer, handgun type, trigger type and caliber, and you can also filter results within a selectable range by overall length, barrel length or weight. If you still have trouble finding results for Llama Serial Number after simplifying your search term then we strongly suggest using the alternative sites (linked above). Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. This tells you the gun's maker. Your help is appreciated. Short, second blowback pattern and more closely approached the external shape of the Mod. Llama XI B - 9mm P _ Commander size with 4.340" barrel. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. Website by Hudson. This import stamp reads as follows, 'STOEGER INDUSTRIES' and then underneath that is 'S. through the alphabet once, they started with "A*1," then "B*1" The year code may appear on the frame above the trigger or under the grip panels. This pistol is still in production. But the funny thing it has no markings aside from the serial # and the manufacturing stamp. The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. Jger Pistole Jger and Co. Suhl, Germany No. It was an imitation of Colt Mod. caliber, was issued along with Mod. I.-This was a 7.65 mm. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. After the late 1980's. (asterisk) and then the number '2' as in 'D.2'. 1 From the top navigation bar on our website Click Search by Serial # Select a manufacturer Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH 2 From the participating manufacturer page Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH Available warranty information will also be shown! i I I i 'i . They came with and without the serrations at the front of the slide. I've had several and the quality is suspect, at best. Some details concerning the various Llama models are as given below. Thanks for the link. | | 11111 tj 111111 1111111 ij 11111111111111. 99. I need some help I just bought a llama yes a llama. L. Selbstlader' Fr. Its odd but I suspect they used an in stockframe and slide that were sitting on shelves in an effort to save a few dollars. 111111 MI 11111 ml 1111 ft ml 111111 m 1111111 m' < J, !i*tiTtittiii7iViti'fiifi!t*iTftitiii>ifiiii9aitilifftlfit>fiifil>i!laiitItf2tliciiffiifiiti!iiiiliiiiVtiitl, No. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is the proof for a Pistol and on a revolver it will be an R. On some guns this may be an I which is for military. Ameba Ownd - . t 11 l?T it:t*tttl t ftfluc^ f I iff 1 ff fl cTTt v > 1, (TTr1! When first issued no model number was assigned but the factory catalog designation was No. Not being especially interested in revolvers I have decided to add another page to cover the Llama revolvers, but like the semi autos I dont trust anything that is out there about them so I will have to collect them also to make sure I have the correct information. I I I I^.i I.I I I I^ I) I I I I tea* . This is a post-World War II production. 'Systema La Lira' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. Catalog pages for the second series two vent, Llama IX C - .45 Cal. Omni I .45 cal - Omni II single stack mag 9mm 7 round - Omni III double stack mag 9mm 13 round mag. Possibly more but the other one I have seen. It has a double grip safety. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. This is purely a conjecture. Largo, and .45 ACP. With N date code manufactured in 1942. Winchester Rifle Serial Number Winchester Firearms Visit Winchester Lookup Website Similar to the Marlin lookup tool above (and provided by the same website) comes the Winchester lookup tool. Starting at the left and reading towards the right, the first symbol is a tad hard to make out in the photograph but it is a knights helmet and shield with the X inside. : Spain Date Code Serialization. They were of high quality and have been sold around the world. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. The gun is exactly as you said. Big Sean Finally Famous Deluxe Edition Zip Sharebeast. After reading some of the identification posts and finding "XVII" on the barrel, I "assume" it was manufactured in 1961. The cost is $175.00 for custom serial numbers on Guardian pistols and $150 for Mini-Revolvers. 317 7.65 mm. Manufactured Under Item:14505864 Gabilondo & Cia Llama Model VII Modelo Extra 9mm Largo, Blue 5 " SA Semi-Automatic Pistol, MFD 1932-44 C&R For Sale at GunAuction.com Its headquarters were in Eibar in the Basque Country, Spain, but they also had workshops during different times in Elgoibar and Vitoria. At the Command Prompt, type the following command and then press Enter: wmic bios get serialnumber. Work on a new design began in 1931 and culminated in 1932 with a Spanish patent issued on April 12th of that year. III.-This was a 9 mm. 6758, ' 1 ' ' ',1 ' ' ' ' ' ' 111 ' ' ' ' t * ' ' ' ' ' '1 ' ' ' ' ' ' 'I''I'1<|I''1I'''J 111111111 ij 1111111111111M1111111 ' 111 n 11 ij 111111 ' 1 ' 11111 y ; 11 11111 . XI.-This is a 9 mm. Again, speculation. This gun, manufactured in 1980, is blow back operated. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. The pre-war serial # on the butt reads with barrel to the right including I frame serial numbers on the fore strap. Shipping Notes: On Star Pistols, the date code is usually under the left grip panel on the grip frame. For Swiss bayonets you can use the SwissWaffen . The pistols that were built after 1936 will have slide markings that readLLAMA GABILONDO Y CIA. ELOEIBAR (ESPANA)and be marked with the caliber of the handgun such as CAL. an Alpha-Numeric Code. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. This indicates that the pistol was manufactured in 1984. i i ' . p | II 111 ' I . The E is for engraved . Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. The winning bid was over $900. Beristain contracted with Gobilondo to make the gun and production started in 1920. V.-Made in 9 mm. No Made in Spain stamped on them. This This pistol was developed by Llama in 1986 and was adopted by the Spanish military in 1988. EN. t 11 l?T it:t*tttl t ftfluc^ f I iff 1 ff fl cTTt v > 1, No. Unusual W detent spring on Model V which is also on the model I, II and one variation of XI. Serial number has been in two different places also. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. t i'^' 11 till t l^lll 11 ll nTi f r 11 In iTl 111! This Micro Max was made in 1997 and was produced using one of the slides from the previous series and not putting the compound curve at the front. The "M1" stamp on the frame leads us to believe that the pistol was manufactured in 1967. Post War serial numbers are all offset. Llama Model II - .380mm Production started in 1933 and lasted thru 1954. I ;ur-po: rwp*.T5p. 'Liberty Patent' Retolaza Hermanos Eibar, Spain No. Mossberg did not put serial numbers on most long guns until 1968 (GCA 1968 required them) Parker Brothers Serial Numbers and Grades. This is in addition to the retail price of the gun and shipping costs. For a revolver, where reloading takes place by means of the turning of a cylinder, an over pressure load is used. Beristain y Cia of Eibar, between the years of 1916 and 1920 received patents for improvements to the Browning 1910, patent No. I will add here that Spain never bought guns from Llama for anygovernment agency unless it was the Trauler model VI for the Secret Service, that I can find any record of. 111 h 111 ' I ' I ' 11111 ' H | ' 1111111 ' 1111. 1252895 gaa llama max i 45 pistol p803458 mos mossberg 500 410 shotgun r733890 mos mossberg 500 12 shotgun e121374 naa north american arms mini master target 22 revolver I had a guy offer me a llama 380 with three mags for $200. Mod. It is marked .38 caliber rather than 9 mm. VI.-This has been reported to be in 9 mm. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. It was manufactured from about 1936 to 1954. Good luck getting the screws back on! It appears to be identical to Mod. Parabellum, 9 mm. This model was produced until about 1954. Both the solid rib and the vent rib were used, Llama model -XI 9mm P. The first design had the W spring detent and possibly came with only lined wood grips asthat is the only way I have seen them. If you intend to buy something from the companies advertising above, or near the bottom of our pages, please use their banners in our sites. . Llama Extra with factory target sights. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. Llama Model 1, Walther P38, Llama 38.. I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (early 1930s?). There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. After the close of World War II certain models were dropped, grip safeties were added to the remaining models, and a .22 caliber pistol was introduced. Known as a Modelo Extra. Llama is now the trade name for handguns that are manufactured by Bersa in Argentina. It was designed after the semi-automatic pistol. A Note About Vintage Guns. 2. Llama Pistol Serial Number Identification Lookup Llama Pistol Serial Number Identification 2016 MODEL NUMBER LOOKUP SYSTEM The Heritage Model Number Lookup System will help you find detailed information about your Heritage Gun. Parabellum caliber with a variant style of grip frame and hammer and has no grip safety. I have found a gun labeled as a Model I-A on the box, but I can assure you there is no such model and the box is a mis-print. This gun was made in 6.35mm, 7.65mm and .380 acp. Not complaining but I'm curious why this got moved since the my Llama is a 1911 design. How to find Llama serial number on Llama guns.. this process and this procedure. Then in the 1980's the firm introduced a new line of pistols that were more modern in both design and function. The photograph on the right is of the butt or heel of the pistol with the magazine inserted. The 1914 Ruby in 7.65 - 9 shot with checkered wood grips as made for the French in WWI. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers this appears to be the export version of Mod. Although Spain began proof marking shotguns in 1910, it was not until July 18, 1923, nearly 5 years after the end of the first world war that Spain's proofing system for its pistols came into use. The gun could have been deemed "unserviceable" and destroyed. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama' which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. The rear sight became adjustable with a screw for windage. Note that most will not be hilited in white as these are. It came to me directly from Spain via my importer. III and is merely a smaller version of that model (Fig. Your help is appreciated. Time will tell. This is a must for all martial artists and anyone wanting to learn the knife throwing techniques of the ninja.span, 1111111 111111 r 11111111111111 n, 1111 11111 11 n 11 h 1111111111 r< 1111111, XjbSuiih 'jsodupug jbXSJOAXSOJ poj doJS, JSUIUIOIJ uiui g9' PIC 'ON, ^ f J1jjt'l1 'lEJ^I^j lt. jl II > 11 I^i I Ullllji^ I tlimjUl i|l IHI^ni^Hn^m m I^i IH mi^i nj i : 11, 'l^p111 Mii|><| ' J^^j*1 '1 *|1111IJ!^1 *i '1 '1 1JI * *i mn11*11 Ji j^i tiji 11 ** jj, 1,111111 > I' 111111 ' 111111 fi 111111111111111' 111111111, i, i, I*, 11 il' i ill III lili il il' lilil lilil I iHlilllllllil ilil'llllhll III i l'i I ,h I i i- i < i ' i ' i i i ' i ' i i ' i i ^ . Or call Stoeger Industries Customer Service at (301) 283-6981 (option 2) or (800) 264-4962 (option 2), 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. EST, Monday through Friday. Both are identical to the Llama Mod. 'F. Mod. 329 7.65 mm. Colt Officers size with a 7 shot capacity. This is the label on the box for this gun. No. I have only seen five of them in the last 15 years. 529. This is a Commander size with a double stack magazine. Last edited by nailcreek; 27th March 2005 at 16:01 . VITORIA (ESPANA) and the Llama logo. Somewhat later a variant pattern in 9 mm. 325 7.65 mm. For some reason this first model produced later was designated Model IV. I'm trying to identify it. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion. If this is your first visit, be sure to
This was prior to the 68 GCA so no import marks were required along with the fact that Interarms was a CIA operation. Libia Exported by Fab. I am almost always in the market for these guns so if you have something you want to get rid of let me know. mi 11 i*Tl niilin?liiii luTT 1111111 < ttif m?' I have never seen any information on this pistol and it was quite a surprise. 111111111 y M i 111' I' 111 I y I 11' I' 11 I' I' I 'j I I M ' 111' I I' I y ' I' I' I')1 I I' I' I'l'J' ' I'l'l'l 1 I'l'j'l'l'l * I *' *' 'J' IM' 1 ' I' ' 'J ' 1 *1, No. VII. ELOEIBAR(ESPANA) andbe marked with the caliber of the handgun and the Llama name such as, CAL. 37272, 'limlll^'llltlM^lHl!,!^ I* 1 imlllTltfllTltU li mTt I nil', 1 i' I' I ' '(|' 1 1 I' ' 1 I' ' 1 11 ' ' ' ' 11' 1 11 ' 111 I 1 I ' I 1 ' ' I ' ' 1 I 11 1 I' I 1 I ' |' I ' M |, I! until they exhausted the alphabet, then they started with "A*2" and If this was a coin, it would no doubt raise its value, but I doubt if it did that for this pistol. A further improvement of the blowback pattern was undertaken and this second blowback style was issued from 1935 on. On the flat plate on the bottom of the gun, just rear of where the magazine is inserted, look for a letter, set of letters or a word. On Windows 7, press Windows + R, type "cmd" into the Run dialog, and then press Enter. Does your Llama say MicroMax on it? No visible import markings can be seen on this pistol. If you do a Google search of Stoeger and read the Wikipedia entry on the company and do the same for Llama you can get a general idea of the DOM. III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. In this case the O, 1944. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. Feb 06, 2013 Pilot. t i^ 11n t,.i 11, i 7i i 't rwi . 29681, No. d'Armes de Guerre de Haute Prcision Lige, Belgium No. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. This handgun sports both a checkered front and back straps as well as walnut wood grips. 3889, No. This is purely a conjecture. These copies of the 1911 style pistols were manufacturedwith great quality and care and have been sold around the world. Thanks! Early versions of this gun were marked as Military and Police on the right side with 9mm Bergman 38 Superon the front of the slide. It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold.