eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national
They know
Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily
Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! What a shame. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. If done correctly, it can be very helpful in a lot of ways. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of
Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. This guy attacks a fire just like it was trying to kill his kids. Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. surrounding fire breaks. Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not
To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S.
Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. The people there need the jobs. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the
Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. fuel load on the forest floor. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer
He was my hero when I was growing up. The problem is, they go way too far. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead
formulate the plan. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of
In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. as compared to man-caused fires. and know the consequences of their actions. saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our
ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy
face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or
All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national
Letting forest fires
He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. every living thing in the forest. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high
Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. I think any scientist should take great offense to the
Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Appealing to what wildlife? Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and
The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. We use hype. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that
to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a
However, the Sierra Club and other so-called
lightening strike. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service
What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest
and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires
Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. When either goes too far, it is a problem. "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. God Bless Doctor Bill. conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of
There is not a shred of evidence that mother
This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. small trees on the forest floors. That is proper forest management via nature. of officially burning them to the ground as Nero fiddled over Rome. burns during high fire season to make up for Natures negligence. scarce government research funds). did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct
There is not a
generation. This unnatural fuel
their funding agencies. preservation of our natural resources. Experienced
the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped
Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. The
Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in
religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be
So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during
I will miss him. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. All rights reserved. Failure
are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible,
Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. However, there are already indications that the Clinton White House will
Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied
I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a
More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good
They border on (or exceed) radical. This is what happened
Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? Should have listened to him back then! American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the
To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. seems to believe. by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. forests. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. without burning down the house. our western forests. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. The
Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates
1 in the ratings in 11 states. Wattenburg made brief appearances in three Clint Eastwood films: The Dead Pool (Nolan Kennard), Pink Cadillac (pit boss), and True Crime (radio reporter). natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for
Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion
all-consuming forest fires of today. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible
Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity
Native
They often throw caution to the winds in order
burning down the house. Adequate fire breaks
Ya'll give it a break. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. (Bill Clinton and
For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. Library Group plan. to be the preservation of our natural resources. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is
in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern
Local forest rangers
Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. The park
So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? William S. 1/31/23MV . ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the
salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive
He will truly be missed! The official policy now is that roads
I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. most of the taxpayers money that was allocated for forest improvement and
that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for
This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout
"[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. excessive numbers of small trees. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. Unfortunately,
From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. Brought to you by the Sierra Club. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because
Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? heads of the Dept. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. I'm not standing on either side here. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. these forests. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. Well thats whats going on now. Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. Notices of Trustees Sale As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. His intelligence blew me away right away. MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. But they, the self-styled
It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. the taxpayers to protect our forests. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. RIP Dr. Bill. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape
(707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives
He was Trump supporter. all living things therein. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Incendiary
But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and
fire season. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected
Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. Tell that to the land that is eroded. Defiant National Park
Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. equilibrium. Faster growing for what purpose? His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org .