I sharpen my own so this will not be a problem for me. ... CPM-S110V. Plus the m390 isn't as abundant as s110v variants so it's a tad more special. ). S110V is more wear resistant with higher carbide fraction at the same hardness.That means more sharpening strokes with the same stone. CPM-S30V has become one of the most used premium steels on the market among knife manufacturers. My finding is similar to OP, S90V is easier to be touched up (following factory bevel) than S110V. I've had both of these knives for quite some time and have NO IDEA why I didn't compare them before. On the other hand, m390 and 204cp are easy to sharpen and have very good edge retention. It's freely available but not all the owners are able to get maximum capability of this steel. People often think S110V should sharpen like S90V. For example, S110V found in masterpieces like the Spyderco Paramilitary 2 is the pinnacle of super steels. The blade of this remarkable knife is crafted from Böhler-Uddeholm M390 particle metallurgy stainless steel. STRENGTH VS. TOUGHNESS. S110V VS M390. I love the aggressive cutting performance of the s90v. It seems the steel does not want to take a razor edge at all. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. M398 Steel. S90V VS S110V. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > Dec 14, 2017 #1. dkb45. S110V was designed to be run at higher hardness's than S90V and is when talking about Spyderco knives. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1.  Originally developed by both Chris Reeve (a world renowned knife maker) and Dick Barber of Crucible Industries, S30V is a martensitic powder-made stainless steel. The Spyderco Manix 2 G10 in M390 is a very good knife, but if you make a couple mods you can make this a great knife. I have limited experience with Spyderco S90V (Manix LW) and own a S110V (Manix Blurple). It will out abrade M390 but I've heard many say the opposite. So far I like it but have not used it much. Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by dkb45, Dec 14, 2017. It can take any edge the other steels ( in it's class) are capable of . What would you recommend, not only based on hardness and toughness, but also on daily use? Both used smoothed out DMT EEF. ... S110V, and M390 as well as old standards like BG 42 and it's analogs, and even a few old 440V/S60V Spydercos. Who uses it: Benchmade, Zero Tolerance. It does offer the best sharpenability of the very high edge retention stainless steels because of less vanadium carbide, however, and it also has very good corrosion resistance. While some steels might have incredible strengths, they may also have weaknesses. Best wheel for Ultra Premium (S110V, S90v, M390, etc) « on: January 24, 2019, 07:40:26 am » I'm ready to purchase a T-8, but I am in the initial stage of learning about different grinding materials for working on the higher end blades I have (S110V, S90v, M390, etc. M390 exhibits excellent edge retention, corrosion resistance, and high level toughness. I am very impressed by the results of the Maxamet and considering to get a knife in it. This is my favorite test so far. Spyderco Paramilitary 2 S110V vs Steel Will Cutjack M390 - SUPER STEEL SHOWDOWN!!! The S110V comes in the same level with the M390 in edge retention ease of sharpness, and corrosion resistance, but with a lower toughness. I have been told it can be difficult to sharpen but I have not needed to sharpen it as of yet. In operation since 1998, BladeForums.com has led the industry since Day 1. Over the years there have been a vast number of variations and sprint runs using various steels and handle materials.Steels have run the gamut from ATS-34 back in the 1990’s to CPM S30V in the early 2000’s and now the co… Both super steels. S110V and M390/20CV/204P do have higher Cr in solution than S45VN. It's even more pronounced at higher hardness. Without knowing what you sharpen with, any advice someone gives you, while well ment, may just not be right. 22:06. Yes–I own knives in varied higher end steels, but I really do not care for … I have never owned S110V so I can not speak of it. Hower, there are more “super steels” like M4, S90V (and S110V), M390 and ZDP-189. I have also noticed the m390 is taking what seems to be a finer edge. Disadvantages: Relatively difficult to sharpen. M390. Good to hear so far. Bohler M390 is widely revered as being the best all-around knife steel, which has led top companies to widely utilize it in higher end knives. i have noticed less burr while sharpening the m390 too. In my corrosion resistance testing, M390 scored very well (I tested CTS-204P), better than S30V, S35VN, S90V, and SG2, and probably a bit better than S45VN. CPM S110V is a highly corro S110V. ). ... Bohler Uddeholm M390. What it is: M390 stainless steel, a powder-metallurgy material produced by Bohler-Uddeholm, is widely regarded as a "super steel" for its properties and performance. The full-flat-ground PlainEdge™ blade of this knife is machined from premium M390 particle metallurgy stainless steel. M390 vs S110V: I have a knife with M390. The stiff spring makes this knife difficult to close with one hand. There are a lot of steel "facts" that are taken at face value. S90V has 14% Cr and 1% Mo, while S110V has 2.25% Mo and 15.25% Cr for improved corrosion resistance. 1) The internal spring that operates the ball bearing locking system is too stiff for me from the factory. Food for thought. I finished sharpening my PM3 one more time, using my full stone progression, and it still maintains that toothiness that I just can't shake. Give me a basic steel that requires basic tools to sharpen to be used for basic tasks knives were mean’t for. Paid Subscribers don't see ads! Also m390 is a true stainless and being in Florida, I'd recommend m390 based purely on the stainless aspect. Slicey Dicey 5,846 views. It is made in Golden, Colorado and is available in a range of steel, handle, and lock variants. Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by microtech85, Oct 24, 2017. S90V VS M390. Vanax would also be expected to have superior corrosion resistance though M390 is likely better than Elmax. It just takes more work than S90V to get the same results so I'd bet this is what some are seeing. a mix) of carbon and iron that is often enriched with other elements to improve certain characteristics depending on the desired application. Truthfully, while there is a degree of skill in sharpening, what you sharpen with is also important. S110V is essentially a modified version of S90V or S125V designed for improved corrosion resistance when compared with those steels. While not as pleasant to sharpen as cru-wear, I have founded it to be very easy to sharpen when compared to S110V or M390. Benchmade 20cv is outstanding in my book. In choosing the best pocket knife you should pay particular attention to the type of steel used in the blade. The m390 is not seeming to have that, but i have not had to chance to cut much with it. I can t personally judge the tendencies for chipping. So, it sounds rather consistent. S110V VS MAXAMET. Developed by the renowned Austrian steel firm Böhler-Uddeholm, M390 was created to offer extremely high wear resistance and corrosion resistance for demanding manufacturing applications like the plastic molding industry. TWISTED SISAL MERCH - THANKS TO MISHEARDKNIFEREVIEWS: https://teespring.com/twisted-sisal-merch Remember to subscribe for more lunacy - hit the bell etc! It is better than almost every steel in edge retention with excellent wear resistance, but anyone who has a knife with the steel will tell you it’s a nightmare to sharpen. The addition of niobium also helps with corrosion resistance. Hey guys, I am interested to know what steel you all prefer for folding edc pocket knife up to 4 inches long. Since its introduction it has been extremely popular and quickly rose to flagship status. The Spyderco Para Military 2 - What more needs to be said? (I assume that sharpening is not problem with the WE.) This high-performance alloy offers very high wear and corrosion resistance, yet remains extremely easy to sharpen and maintain. It did not do quite as well as S110V or LC200N. ). S110V=26 Maxamet=24 M390=26. I see M390 used in more high end blades than I do S110V. S110V's data sheet mentions, for example, that it has better corrosion resistance than S90V. So why should Maxamet be considered more premium than M390? The Spyderco Manix 2 is a robust, highly ergonomic EDC knife designed by Eric Glesser. This specific variant is the G-10 model in CPM S110V steel. If s90 is similar to s110, I prefer the m390. Easy maintanence as well. The Spyderco Military was introduced in the early 1990’s by Sal Glesser as a knife designed to be carried by military personnel. S110V vs S90V Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by dkb45, Dec 14, 2017. Haven t used the manix xl that I have with s90v, but my manix2 with s110v is very hard to sharpen compared to any other steel I have. Something like M390 doesn’t really have weaknesses, which to me is more important than something that has a couple strengths and a glaring weakness (like M4). - Duration: 22:06. S10V M390; EDGE RETENTION: 5/10: 8/10: EASE OF SHARPNESS: 8/10: 5/10: CORROSION RESISTANCE: 7/10: 8/10: TOUGHNESS: 2/10: 6/10: M390 and S110V are quite similar in performance, but the M390 offers better toughness than S110V. S110V vs S90V and M398 As I wrote in my M398 article , I am not a big fan of the steel because of its coarse structure and relatively low toughness. Advantages: Extremely high wear resistance and corrosion resistance. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Isn’t this video I do a toughness test on three different Spyderco’s with k390, cruwear, and S110V. One thing that i am really liking about the m390 is how mirror like the metal is. S110v is harder and more prone to chipping than m390. Spyderco Para Military 2 Knife. S110V has a similar Mo content as well so it should still have better corrosion resistance than S45VN. Alongside edge geometry and design, blade steel is a critical element that determines how a knife performs. M390 vs S90V (CPM S90V) M390 I think its quite beautiful, but i am assuming it will have superior corrosion resistance, but i have had no issues with the s90 as of yet. Thanks to Michael Poor and Connor Kaspar for becoming Knife Steel Nerds Patreon supporters!. If you are unfamiliar with the Para Military 2, this will help you get a better understanding of one of the most popular knife designs in the past 10 years. S90V S110V; EDGE RETENTION: 8/10: 8/10: EASE OF SHARPNESS: 3/10: 5/10: CORROSION RESISTANCE: 6/10: 7/10: TOUGHNESS: 2/10: 3/10: S110V is slightly better in terms of corrosion resistance and toughness compared to S90V. ... Para Military™ 2 G-10 Dark Blue CPM S110V. Both similar in size. M390 for me really requires time to do things by hand using diamond hones. 4,428. Steel is essentially an alloy (i.e. The Mo content of M390 is lower, however, so it is difficult to predict how things balance out when comparing higher Cr vs … I would suggest only people with personal experience using these steels respond so we can try to get an accurate idea of preference with actual use. Regards, Mark Martensitic is a specific type of stainless steel alloy.