Check dose rates and equipment before drenching. And as a follow up on Pepper, she is doing fine and has no apparent problems thus far. If you don't have it, then wait on it. ALL goats *will* have worms, wether or not you find eggs - there are many life stages that are not producing eggs. I don't know if any of you remember our pregnant doe Pepper. Yes you can use it on kids, but I would not worm both at the same time. i would never use Cydectin on does that are expecting. I had given her 5 cc's of Cydectin ⦠Especially in an expecting doe. However, the infections may develop resistance to cydectin if overused due to its similarity to ivermectin. I use 1 cc per 20 pounds. I've read where some people recommend 1 cc per 25 pound of goat and I've also read where some people recommend 1 cc per 35 pound of goat. However, you can add Black Oil Sunflower Seeds (BOSS) to grain, beet pulp, and Diamond V yeast to try to add the weight on. I use prohibit, which is lavamasol. Please note that the dosages for goats is sometimes much more than what it says on the label, if you underdose, you are wasting the wormer and helping the worms to build up resistance. per 110 lbs of goat. Do not overdose. Some does are just thin when they are milking. Just my opinion. Donât be afraid to ⦠It will get tapes and some that cydectin will not get. Ive got 2 lactating does 1 buck and 3 wethers. You might want to wait a couple of weeks to see if she is better. If you have determined that Ivermectin is not the choice, then I would go with Cydectin sheep drench, orally. Please don't fall into the trap that if you give wormer to your goat, that in the milk is the actual wormer in enough of it's orignal form to worm, or to treat her kids or us. Just don't give to any goat that has any possibility of being pregnant, nor give it to a doe if you are using the milk for humans. i am told in my area by reputable breeders that goat wormer here isnt good enough. I have a doe who just puts all she has into the milk bucket, and I cant keep weight on her while she is milking. Give 1 ½-2 times the sheep or cattle dose. At 1 cc per 20 pounds. Jon, with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. She did not abort per se (found no fetus, afterbirth or anything but blood), but her vaginal area swelled and protruded, and she started dropping a bit of blood for a few days. Valbazan should not be used unless you know no one is pregnant. can i also use it on the kids? Just my opinion. i need to worm my newly nursing doe and was wondering if i could use valbazen... if so what is the dosage amount? If I'm not mistaken, it does not kill tapeworms, so a person would need to use a different wormer for tapeworms. If you know your herd has been battling parasites you can begin worming kids as young as 2 weeks with a natural goat dewormer (chemical dewormers should be done, at the earliest, at 9 weeks of age). This article will cover a variety of subjects which keep coming up, making it clear to this writer that goat producers lack essential information on the topics. Works well on barber pole worm which is what would be causing the anemia you are seeing in their eye checks. There are many types of worms, your med needs to be specific to the type of worm you have IF you have a wormy goat. Valbazen was taken off the listed uses just a few years ago, probably due to misuse. (You may comment on the copper portion of this post too if you wish). You can give this cattle wormer to goats orally due to the goats motabolisim being so high it works better orally. you must worm it with soemthing like ivermectin, or valbazen, or cydectin.. safeguard would work in a pinch.. and may be enough to save it. Last edited: Apr ⦠Just my opinion. I just started using this wormer this past fall could that be why it worked at such a low dosage?? You can get a Generic Ivermectin injectable from Jeffers Livestock.com . She suddenly seemed to be aborting and as I began to look at our goat health log AND read the reports on Cydectin, I suddenly realized that this may have been the cause of her troubles. if administered 2 days in ⦠Subcutaneous injection can cause transient local tissue reaction that may result in trim loss of edible tissue at slaughter if animals are slaughtered within 35 days after treatment. of body as outlined on the manufacturers label. At 10 mg/kg, withdrawal time is 16 days meat and 4 days for milk. Administer 1 mL per 11 lb (1 mL per 5 kg) body weight into the mouth of the sheep, using any standard drenching equipment. Last time my vet was out (and yes, he DOES make house calls for goats), he checked their eyelids and gums and said he believes I've finally gotten through my "worm problem" that I had when using Safeguard. I dont have a problem with worms so I can wait to deworm. I will not worm a doe and a small nursing kid at the same time with any wormer. IF YOUR GOAT NEEDS DEWORMING. You give valbazen right after kidding because you know they aren't pregnant at that moment, humans aren't immediately using the milk, and it covers more than Ivermectin. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. So I first worm one then about a week later worm the other. No dewormer "cures" a goat overnight or even really in a few days. I too have noticed less worms in fecal counts at that rate. I leave my does and kids together and have some several months old kids still nursing if the mom will let them. can you worm a nursing doe with valbazen? so it must be somewhat safe ?Someone correct me if I am wrong please. Ewes on trial were dosed Cydectin orally at 1cc/11lbs. She suddenly seemed to be aborting and as I began to look at our goat health log AND read the reports on Cydectin, I suddenly realized that this may have been the cause of her troubles. Then when I get ready to breed will use cydectin until kidding if I need to worm. we give our goats. Especially in an expecting doe. with what I have read, I would only use valbazen as a last resort. If you have determined that Ivermectin is not the choice, then I would go with Cydectin sheep drench, orally. I have never had a problem with it. Needless to say, we had a vet at the ready just in case. Posted by GoatWorld on January 14, 2001 at 10:55:15: Okay I've got a question/observation here... Over the last couple of months, I've been reading some different posts and information about using Cydectin pour on for cattle as a wormer - orally on goats. I worm with valbazan the day a doe kids. So I'm curious to hear what some of you have experienced with using Cydectin, the dosages you are using and if you have had the same reaction as did Pepper. This just shows you how useful it is for us all to discuss any type of wormers, vitamins, minerals, feed supplements, etc. Apparently there have been a few cases of people reporting their does suddenly aborting from this. Do ⦠GOAT RAMBLINGS. Blood and milk samples were collected from the ewes and blood samples was collected from their nursing lambs in order to determine the ⦠We originally thought that this may have been a prolapse but it wasn't. The dosage of cydectin is 0.4mg/kg orally for a single dose. Who turned on the eletric fence without telling me? I have used it on young juniors and bucks all the time. Especially in an expecting doe. The dosage rate is very narrow and treating the mom with the correct dose could affect the kids more harshly. Even after that a goat can stil decline. I am always leary at how much might go to the milk. ( Injectable Moxidectin ) Dosage is 1 ml. But if an individual has a personal preference to administer moxidectin orally to goats, then the sheep oral drench at a 2X dose (0.18 mg/lb; 0.4 mg/kg) should be given. I use it on my nursing does although my vet gave me a differant dosage rate (4 cc per 100). Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. X#! Should not be used in the first tri-mester of pregnancy, in case your doe has bred back. I was wondering if i can use Dectomax as a viable wormer for my goats? And of course a goat will not just have one worm. Can cause birth defects and death. Source: Southern Consortium for Small Ruminant Parasite Control (SCSRPC) - wormx.org I had given her 5 cc's of Cydectin orally three days before the trouble began. I will usually get some fecals done when they are around 2 months old if I start seeing the kids getting a little bellied or rough coated. Cydectin is good but expensive. We use Cydectin for our goats. ADMINISTRATION: CYDECTIN Oral Drench is ready-to-use. I do the same as Brandywine with the same results except I use iver when breeding and prego only because I have had better luck with iver than cydectin in my area , I have also gone as high as 1 ml per 10 lb on wethers with known tapeworm problems with no known problems from the goats they were about 50lb at the time and I did not take them off feed as I usually do when worming. best rules of thumb is deworm your goats before breeding them and if need to be dewormed while expecting I suggest Ivomec or Safeguard. Cydectin and Ivermectin are in the same class of dewormers. It's rarely more than the carrier. Welcome Guest. Re: Cydectin - Not good to use on a pregnant doe?. The reason im asking is i need to worm them and i dont have $75.00 for wormer that treats lung worm. I know you don't do the does and kids at the same time but at what age do you think it is safe to worm a kid? 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